Saving 25 million lives ft. Mark Dybul

<p>PEPFAR is widely hailed as one of the most impactful aid programs of all time, with credible estimates as high as 25 million lives saved. Former US Global AIDS coordinator and head of PEPFAR Dr. Mark Dybul joins the show to discuss how it all happened. We talk about the institutional challenges to make a program like this work effectively, how presidential leadership was important to make PEPFAR a reality, and why it's so important that we authorize the program again.</p> <p>Got questions? Send us a note at <a href="mailto:mailbag@cnliberalism.org">mailbag@cnliberalism.org</a></p> <div> <div class="sc-p5flmk-0 hgUaki"> <div id="cid-0"> <div> <div class="sc-fotOHu boWsAQ"> <div class="sc-1sp3zau-0 fYcGch sc-d4f3hw-0 pPpmn"> <div class="sc-1ye87qi-0 eskKQs"> <div class="def"> <div class="sc-1sp3zau-0 gOTaOa sc-1di2uql-0 gbusdU"> <div class="sc-1sp3zau-0 gOTaOa sc-1di2uql-0 gbusdU"> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div class="sc-fzoLsD euuNpB"> <div class="sc-fzoLsD eeqOQk"> <div class="sc-fzoLsD jmnkot"> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div> <div> <div class="sc-1di2uql-0 jVgHLt sc-1sp3zau-0 fdFQMz">Follow us at:</div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div class="def"> <div> <div> <div class="sc-1di2uql-0 jVgHLt sc-1sp3zau-0 fdFQMz"> <div class="def"><a href="https://twitter.com/CNLiberalism">https://twitter.com/CNLiberalism</a></div> <div class="def"><a href="https://cnliberalism.org/">https://cnliberalism.org/</a></div> <div class="def"> </div> <div class="def">Join a local chapter at <a href="https://cnliberalism.org/become-a-member/">https://cnliberalism.org/become-a-member/</a></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div> <div class="sc-fotOHu khczAQ"> <div class="sc-fotOHu cJXuGC"> <div class="sc-fotOHu iGUxyT"> <div class="sc-jRQBWg iUmNEo"> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div>