MADONNA: For the First Time Ever

<p>How do you find peace daily?</p> <p>What keeps you going in hard times?</p> <p>Today, Jay sits down with Madonna for a rare and intimate conversation that goes beyond her iconic career into the spiritual foundation that has carried her through life&rsquo;s greatest challenges. For nearly 30 years, Madonna has walked a spiritual path that has shaped her resilience, fueled her creativity, and defined her sense of purpose. Madonna opens up about what first drew her to seek deeper meaning, the practices that became her lifeline, and why she believes spirituality has been the true key to her strength, longevity, and fulfillment.</p> <p>Together, Jay and Madonna dive into themes of transformation, the search for meaning in suffering, the freedom that comes with radical acceptance, and the power of forgiveness to heal our deepest wounds. Madonna shares the moments that tested her most, from loss and betrayal to near-death experiences, and how each challenge became an opening for growth when she chose to see it through the lens of purpose rather than punishment.</p> <p>In the second half of the conversation, Jay and Madonna are joined by her longtime Kabbalah teacher, Eitan, for a powerful exploration of spiritual wisdom in action. They discuss why our struggles and inner battles are essential for growth, and how to reframe challenges as opportunities to reveal greater light. Eitan offers practical tools, from pausing and embracing discomfort to practicing &ldquo;certainty beyond logic,&rdquo;&nbsp; to help us find strength in life&rsquo;s most difficult moments.</p> <p>In this interview, you'll learn:</p> <p>How to Build a Spiritual Practice</p> <p>How to Find Meaning in Suffering</p> <p>How to Escape the Victim Mentality</p> <p>How to Practice Radical Acceptance</p> <p>How to Forgive and Let Go</p> <p>How to Manifest with Consciousness</p> <p>How to Teach Kids Spiritual Awareness</p> <p>How to Stop Comparing Yourself to Others</p> <p>How to Discover Your Soul&rsquo;s Purpose</p> <p>Every one of us will face moments of doubt, loss, or uncertainty, but those moments are not the end of our story, they are invitations to grow into something greater. The challenges we experience are not punishments but lessons, guiding us back to our true selves.&nbsp;</p> <p>With Love and Gratitude,</p> <p>Jay Shetty</p> <p><strong><em>Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe </em></strong><a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe"><strong><em>here</em></strong></a><strong><em>.&nbsp;</em></strong></p> <p><strong><em>Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! </em></strong><strong><em><a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a></em></strong><strong><em>&nbsp;</em></strong></p> <p>Explore the deep spiritual study of Kabbalah with Madonna&rsquo;s new course, &lsquo;The Mystical Studies of the Zohar&rsquo; together with her teacher Eitan Yardeni at <a href="http://www.kabbalah.com">www.kabbalah.com</a></p> <p><strong>What We Discuss:</strong></p> <p>00:00 Intro</p> <p>00:44 Beginning a Spiritual Journey</p> <p>02:41 Choosing Your Spiritual Path</p> <p>08:26 Breath, Yoga, and Inner Peace</p> <p>17:40 Do You Need Spirituality to Be Successful?</p> <p>20:29 Channeling Art Through Spirit</p> <p>24:56 Transcending Trauma and Pain</p> <p>27:56 Life Beyond Money and Material Success</p> <p>30:30 Motherhood as a Spiritual Calling</p> <p>33:07 The Gift of Being Different</p> <p>35:54 Teaching Kids Spiritual Awareness</p> <p>40:37 Showing Up Through the Struggle</p> <p>42:37 Facing the Enemy Within</p> <p>48:54 Escaping the Victim Mentality</p> <p>50:23 How We Abandon Ourselves</p> <p>54:36 Breaking Free From Self-Pity</p> <p>56:16 Manifestation with Consciousness</p> <p>01:01:24 Finding Strength in Community</p> <p>01:05:53 The Weight of Words and Actions</p> <p>01:08:57 Letting Go of Hate and Grudges</p> <p>01:19:44 The Wisdom of Kabbalah</p> <p>01:21:40 How Madonna Discovered Kabbalah</p> <p>01:27:25 Unlocking the Secrets of Life Through Spirituality&nbsp;</p> <p>01:30:55 The Inner Battle With Toxic Thoughts</p> <p>01:38:02 A Mother&rsquo;s Deepest Fear</p> <p>01:40:09 Learning to Accept Help</p> <p>01:42:02 Freeing Yourself from Harsh Judgment</p> <p>01:46:31 Four Steps to Inner Strength</p> <p>01:53:13 Practicing Trust Beyond Logic</p> <p>01:56:35 Finding Lessons In Life&rsquo;s Pain</p> <p>02:02:12 Releasing the Need to Control</p> <p>02:04:06 Raising Spiritually Grounded Children</p> <p>02:07:08 Why Overgiving Hurts Kids</p> <p>02:10:01 The Dangers of Instant Gratification</p> <p>02:12:06 What Is Your Soul&rsquo;s Purpose?</p> <p><strong>Episode Resources:</strong></p> <p>Madonna | <a href="https://www.madonna.com/">Website</a></p> <p>Madonna | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/madonna">Instagram</a></p> <p>Madonna | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/madonna">Facebook</a></p> <p>Madonna | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/madonna">YouTube</a></p> <p>Madonna | <a href="https://x.com/madonna">X</a></p> <p>Madonna | <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/madonnaphotos/">Flickr</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>