Inauguration Episode One: Josh & the Pro-Trumper

<p>On Monday, Donald J Trump will be sworn in as president. Again. To help us understand the best-case scenarios and worst-case scenarios for his second term, Josh has invited two diametrically-opposed thinkers. Today, the pro-Trump case with Batya Ungar-Sargon. On Inauguration Day, the anti-Trump case with David Frum.</p> <p><br /><br />Batya is the deputy opinion editor of Newsweek and one of the most articulate pro-Trump voices in America. She has a PhD in English from the University of California, Berkeley, and promotes Trumpism from the "populist left". She has written two books, "Bad News: How Woke Media Is Undermining Democracy", and "Second Class: How the Elites Betrayed America's Working Men and Women".</p> <p><br />Today, Batya and Josh have a spirited debate about immigration, isolationism, NATO, the woke left, the working class, and Trump's political cronyism. It tells you a lot about our topsy-turvy politics that our pro-Trump guest is a former leftist and our anti-Trump guest is a conservative.&nbsp;Enjoy.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Watch this conversation on&nbsp;<a href="http://youtube.com/@JoshSzeps_"><strong>YouTube</strong></a>. And you&rsquo;re missing out on our best ad-free content if you haven&rsquo;t popped over to the <a href="https://uncomfortableconversations.substack.com/subscribe"><strong>Uncomfy Convos Substack</strong></a> page.</p> <p><a href="http://twitter.com/joshzepps">http://twitter.com/joshzepps</a></p> <p><a href="http://instagram.com/joshszeps/">http://instagram.com/joshszeps/</a></p> <p><a href="http://tiktok.com/@uncomfyconversations">http://tiktok.com/@uncomfyconversations</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p>