The Atheist Experience 29.48 with Godless Engineer and Jmike

In today’s episode of The Atheist Experience, Godless Engineer and JMike tackle the concept of arbitrary biblical morality, the search for stance-independent purpose, and failed prophetic claims about global digital currency. Supreme Leader in CO asks if the fulfillment of the Mark of the Beast prophecy, appearing as mandatory one-world digital currency, would force belief. The hosts critique the vagueness of Revelation, noting that a single correct prediction does not validate the Bible or prove magic. They suggest that such vague claims are akin to low-probability guesses. Why does this particular apocalyptic prediction persist despite being easily dismissed? Patrick in FL argues that if God truly engaged in intelligent design, the world would not contain genetic diseases, mental defects, or other flaws, finding perfection incompatible with observed malfunction. He then questions the purpose of life without a God. The hosts clarify that absolute purpose is a meaningless concept, much like arguing someone is "taller" without context. If purpose requires a conscious mind, is it fundamentally subjective? Cyrus in England questions the utility of debate, noting that most people are either immovable or easily swayed, suggesting he should stop debating on Discord. JMike and Godless Engineer argue that debate is crucial for honing skills and influencing fence-sitters who watch, even if the direct interlocutor is unmoved. Is engaging hostile opponents worth the positive effect on casual observers? All right, well, that's going to be our show for today. I hope all of you humans out there have a great day. And don't forget to stand up and use your voice. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJgKqvLPFyI" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">00:00</a> Intro <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJgKqvLPFyI&amp;t=392s" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">06:32</a> Supreme Leader-CO | Belief Caused By Fulfilled Prophecies <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJgKqvLPFyI&amp;t=1849s" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">30:49</a> Patrick-NY | Intelligent Design Correlation With Success <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJgKqvLPFyI&amp;t=4350s" rel="noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">1:12:30</a> Cyrus-(ENG) | Utility Of Debating Theists The ACA, American Humanist Association, and Genetically Modified Skeptic, are joining forces to support the Equality Texas Rainbow Rights Roadshow. 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