Debating the Legacy of the COVID-19 Pandemic
September 26, 2025
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September 26, 2025
Debating the Legacy of the COVID-19 Pandemic
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Summary
It’s been five years since the pandemic began, but was our public health system or society to blame for our country’s failures to stop the spread? Some argue that public health leaders were unprepared, mismanaged the crisis, and provided inconsistent guidance. Others argue the failures were societal, citing widespread mistrust, misinformation, and other guidance, which undermined compliance and effectiveness. Now, in a new format, our debaters argue both sides of this nuanced and complex question: Was COVID a Public Health Failure or Did Society Fail Public Health?
Dr. Tom Frieden, Former Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC); President and Chief Executive Officer at Resolve to Save Lives
Doctor Mike Varshavski, Board-certified family medicine physician, UNICEF Ambassador, and Influencer
Dr. Jerome Adams, 20th Surgeon General of the United States
Dr. Dara Kass, Practicing ER physician and medical news contributor during the COVID pandemic, Former Regional Director in the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
Emmy award-winning journalist John Donvan moderates
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