The Engagement: America's Quarter-Century Struggle Over Same-Sex Marriage

<p>Melissa and Kate talk with <a href="https://twitter.com/sissenberg">Sasha Issenberg</a>, journalist and political science professor at UCLA, about his book <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-engagement-america-s-quarter-century-struggle-over-same-sex-marriage-sasha-issenberg/13046061?ean=9781984898517"><i>The Engagement: America's Quarter-Century Struggle Over Same-Sex Marriage</i></a>. Issenberg offers a glimmer of hope about the lasting legality of same-sex marriage, even in light of Justice Clarence Thomas’s concurring opinion in <i>Dobbs</i>. But he warns about the dangerous exemptions that could be carved out through <i>303 Creative</i>, which the Supreme Court has yet to issue an opinion on, but foreshadowed in its <i>Hobby Lobby</i> opinion.</p><ul>

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<a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/05/31/issenberg-book-excerpt-bill-woods-honolulu-doma-491401">Read</a> an excerpt of <i>The Engagement: America's Quarter-Century Struggle Over Same-Sex Marriage</i>

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