What Happens When a Pro-Life Congresswoman Needs an Abortion?

Tara Palmeri sits down with Republican Congresswoman Kat Cammack of Florida for a wide-ranging and unusually candid conversation. A former Capitol Hill chief of staff before she was elected, Cammack draws on both sides of the power dynamic to describe a culture she calls "college 2.0" — late nights, alcohol, lobbyists, and a steep imbalance that she argues lets harassment flourish among members and staff alike. As chair of the Republican Women's Caucus, she's co-leading a bipartisan working group with Democrat Teresa Leger Fernández to overhaul how misconduct is reported and punished: consolidating the maze of six separate reporting offices into a single "one-stop shop," requiring candidates to disclose past sexual-misconduct settlements, and stripping congressional pensions from those convicted. Tara presses her on the tensions, too — reconciling a zero-tolerance push with supporting a president who has been accused by more than two dozen women, and why she believes the Epstein files (which she says she's called to release since 2021) became a partisan weapon that ultimately hurt survivors. In the most personal stretch of the interview, Cammack recounts the life-threatening ectopic pregnancy that forced her to terminate to save her life, the delays she faced in the ER under Florida's six-week law, the disinformation campaign she says geofenced hospitals to frighten doctors, and the death threats she's received for telling her story. It's an emotional, often-uncomfortable conversation about power, accountability, and the human cost of playing politics with women's health.

Note: this episode includes a frank discussion of pregnancy loss and a medical emergency that some viewers may find difficult.

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5:09 – "DC is Hollywood for ugly people" — and the stories reporters whisper

8:00 – Reporters as targets, too: the vulnerability built into access

11:00 – Leading the bipartisan working group: accountability beyond expulsions

13:21 – Disclosing settlements and stripping pensions for convictions

15:18 – The $17M in hush settlements and the maze of six reporting offices

17:44 – Why these congresswomen took it on, and a "disruptor" generation

19:48 – "Would you call yourself a feminist?"

23:11 – Tara pushes back with the trans-athlete statistics

25:23 – Reconciling the anti-harassment push with supporting Trump

27:00 – Why didn't Trump release the Epstein files? Calling for it since 2021

28:30 – Mace, MTG, and the political cost of demanding transparency

30:16 – What's holding the files back, and statute-of-limitations reform for survivors