How ISIS Returns
When America abruptly abandoned its Kurdish allies in Syria, a new cycle of violence began. How did we get here? And where will it end?
October 11, 2019
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Episode 113 · October 11, 2019
How ISIS Returns
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Summary
Staff writer Mike Giglio has been reporting on ISIS since before Americans knew what to call it. He documents his five years in the region for a new book, Shatter the Nations: ISIS and the War for the Caliphate.
He joins Isaac Dovere to discuss the abrupt changes happening in Syria. How did a phone call upend American policy towards its Kurdish allies? What’s happening on the ground now? And where will this new cycle of violence lead?
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