Hour 2 - Reagan and Trump

<p>Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show is a densely packed, economics‑focused hour that centers on the escalating Iran crisis, the global energy market, and the fallout from the Spirit Airlines&ndash;JetBlue merger block, with extended analysis from economist Stephen Moore, a former senior advisor to Presidents Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump. Broadcasting from Washington, D.C., Clay Travis continues to build on the theme introduced earlier in the day: that time and leverage are overwhelmingly on the United States&rsquo; side&mdash;not Iran&rsquo;s&mdash;despite widespread media claims to the contrary.</p> <p>The hour opens with Clay dismantling the dominant media narrative that Iran can &ldquo;wait out&rdquo; the current U.S. strategy. He argues the opposite is true, explaining that Iran&rsquo;s oil and gas infrastructure is nearing a breaking point under the U.S.‑enforced blockade of the Strait of Hormuz. Because oil and gas exports are the backbone of Iran&rsquo;s economy and the country has extremely limited storage capacity, Clay explains that Iran is now resorting to using aging tankers as floating storage&mdash;a sign of deep economic distress. He underscores that halting oil production risks long‑term damage to oil fields themselves, meaning Iran could permanently cripple its own economy if the blockade drags on.</p> <p>Hour 2 features multiple pieces of audio from President Donald Trump, who forcefully rebukes reporters pressing him for a rushed timeline. Trump compares the brief duration of the Iran operation to past American wars, noting that Iran&rsquo;s military has already been largely neutralized and that the U.S. has &ldquo;all the time in the world,&rdquo; while Iran does not. Trump also explicitly rejects the idea of using nuclear weapons, calling it a &ldquo;stupid question&rdquo; and reaffirming that Iran has been decimated through conventional military power alone. Clay emphasizes that the United States&mdash;not Iran&mdash;now controls maritime traffic in the Strait of Hormuz, countering claims that Tehran ever truly had control rather than simply issuing terrorist threats.</p> <p>A major analytical thread in Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show is the economic leverage created by U.S. energy independence. Clay outlines how China, not the United States, is one of the biggest economic losers in the standoff. He cites reporting showing that China has been secretly importing sanctioned Iranian oil by disguising it as shipments from Malaysia and Indonesia&mdash;volumes that exceed those countries&rsquo; actual production. Because China produces very little oil domestically, Clay argues Beijing is increasingly reliant on Iranian energy and will eventually pressure Tehran to cut a deal to reopen the Strait. Meanwhile, the U.S. stock market continues to hit record highs, reinforcing the point that America&rsquo;s economy is not being strangled by higher oil prices the way it would have been in the 1980s or 1990s.</p> <p>Economist Stephen Moore then joins the program for an extended interview that shifts the focus to economic policy, energy markets, and airline regulation. Moore draws historical parallels between the Reagan economic recovery and Trump&rsquo;s current approach, noting that the Dow Jones Industrial Average has risen from roughly 1,000 in the early 1980s to around 50,000 today&mdash;what he calls the greatest period of wealth creation in human history. He credits free‑market policies, energy production, and capital investment rather than government micromanagement.</p> <p>The conversation then turns to Spirit Airlines, which Moore and Clay describe as a textbook example of government failure. Moore argues that the Biden administration and Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg wrongly blocked Spirit&rsquo;s merger with JetBlue on antitrust grounds, even though the deal would have created a stronger fifth airline to compete with the existing &ldquo;big four.&rdquo; When the merger was blocked, Spirit&rsquo;s shareholders were wiped out and the airline entered bankruptcy&mdash;exactly as executives had warned. Moore strongly opposes any government bailout or takeover, arguing that subsidizing failed companies only entrenches inefficiency and punishes well‑run competitors. Callers echo that sentiment, urging the government to let market forces work rather than propping up failure.</p> <p>Listener questions also drive a detailed discussion of gas prices, export tariffs, and global commodity markets. Moore explains why taxing U.S. oil exports or artificially lowering domestic prices would backfire, citing the failed windfall‑profits tax of the 1970s that reduced production and worsened shortages. Both Clay and Moore stress that oil is a global commodity and that attempts to override market pricing inevitably lead to shortages, black markets, or reduced investment.</p> <p>The hour closes with Moore sharing a personal story about being nominated by President Trump to the Federal Reserve Board and how Trump encouraged him to &ldquo;stay in the fight&rdquo; amid intense political attacks&mdash;illustrating Trump&rsquo;s loyalty behind the scenes. Moore finishes with sharp criticism of Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, calling him overly political and wasteful, and praises Kevin Warsh as a future Fed chair capable of restoring a strong, stable dollar.</p> <p>Make sure you never miss a second of the show by subscribing to the Clay Travis &amp; Buck Sexton show podcast wherever you get your podcasts!&nbsp;<a href="http://ihr.fm/3InlkL8">ihr.fm/3InlkL8</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>For the latest updates from Clay &amp; Buck, visit our website <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.clayandbuck.com%2F&amp;data=05%7C02%7CMarkWeiner%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf1fb28049c334a2cc7f008dd5b6dc780%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C638767249239931219%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=eECesiWyOO3YOybB4HVSIOqFBQ6FQ83xp%2FJ%2FhPDAKfM%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://www.clayandbuck.com/</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Connect with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton:&nbsp;</p> <p>X - <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fclayandbuck&amp;data=05%7C02%7CMarkWeiner%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf1fb28049c334a2cc7f008dd5b6dc780%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C638767249239960597%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=WdpyZ8Gzbhog1ml43mVvOghWqLGt0rZcdfa%2FPC3pkYY%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://x.com/clayandbuck</a></p> <p>FB - <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FClayandBuck%2F&amp;data=05%7C02%7CMarkWeiner%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf1fb28049c334a2cc7f008dd5b6dc780%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C638767249239980082%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=Nqqk%2FXJNrFqQd%2BUdWMs5Xw7DxzwpMExmpDda7Y9fNNY%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://www.facebook.com/ClayandBuck/</a></p> <p>IG - <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Fclayandbuck%2F&amp;data=05%7C02%7CMarkWeiner%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf1fb28049c334a2cc7f008dd5b6dc780%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C638767249239998376%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=s%2F3CGsjjib9Gu8mBlf5ff31%2Fixq4YP17xzT17hhpJCc%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://www.instagram.com/clayandbuck/</a></p> <p>YouTube - <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fc%2Fclayandbuck&amp;data=05%7C02%7CMarkWeiner%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf1fb28049c334a2cc7f008dd5b6dc780%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C638767249240017198%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=hoGZ3pur0U5mQzw7AMhVbUTvt98j6iiA3uSdRyW8ilE%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://www.youtube.com/c/clayandbuck</a></p> <p>Rumble - <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frumble.com%2Fc%2FClayandBuck&amp;data=05%7C02%7CMarkWeiner%40iheartmedia.com%7Cf1fb28049c334a2cc7f008dd5b6dc780%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C638767249240034483%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=b2TrFHYPxraFqTGFla%2BJ7HG5kQ5p006bXVNPXSsFvAw%3D&amp;reserved=0">https://rumble.com/c/ClayandBuck</a></p> <p>TikTok - <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@clayandbuck">https://www.tiktok.com/@clayandbuck</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/clayandbuck" rel="payment">Follow Clay & Buck on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/clayandbuck</a></p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>