The art of the deal: Malcolm Turnbull on Donald Trump

<p>When Malcolm Turnbull was prime minister, he made a call that made the then president of the United States very, very angry.</p><p>Donald Trump called it the “worst call he’d had all day” – a “killer”, “crazy” and “disgusting”.</p><p>But Turnbull argues that standing up to Trump, even if it means saying things he doesn’t want to hear, is the only effective way to deal with him.</p><p>Now, as Australia faces the prospect of a second Trump term, Turnbull says Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s willingness to face off with the president could make the difference on everything from the economy to our national security.</p><p>Today, former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull on how he forged a relationship with Donald Trump and what Anthony Albanese needs to know if Trump wins again.</p><p><br /></p><p><strong>Socials: </strong>Stay in touch with us on <a href="http://www.twitter.com/7ampodcast">Twitter</a> and <a href="http://www.instagram.com/7ampodcast">Instagram</a></p><p><strong>Guest: </strong>Former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>