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Rick Rubin: Vibe Coding is the Punk Rock of Software

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On this episode of "The Ben & Marc Show", a16z co-founders Marc Andreessen and Ben Horowitz sit down with legendary music producer and bestselling author Rick Rubin to explore the origin of his unexpected new creation: "The Way of Code"*

Blending ancient philosophy and modern AI, The Way of Code reimagines the 3,000-year-old Tao Te Ching for the age of artificial intelligence, software, and “vibe coding.” What began as a viral tweet quickly evolved into a creative manifesto—part book, part tool, part spiritual operating system for the future.

Joined by a16z General Partners Anjney Midha and Erik Torenberg, the group dives deep into:

- How Rick became a meme for Vibe Coding —and then quickly wrote "The Way of Code"

- Why AI is just another artistic tool

- Remix culture, creativity, and collective consciousness

- Why great founders and artists need to stay true to themselves

With shout outs to punk rock, the collective unconscious, and Johnny Cash’s famed acoustic sessions, this conversation is a sprawling, soul-searching journey across music, philosophy, tech, and truth. We hope you enjoy this deeply personal and surprisingly practical conversation on how to live—and create—in the age of AI.

*The Way of Code

“Tools will come and tools will go. Only the vibe coder remains.” - Rick Rubin

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Rick RubinThe BenMarc ShowMarc AndreessenBen HorowitzThe WayCode BlendingAI The Way

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