AI’s True Cyber Risk: Fable, Mythos, China, and The Rest — With Alex Stamos

Alex Stamos is the former chief security officer of Facebook and the chief product officer at Corridor, and one of the most authoritative voices on cybersecurity in the AI era. Stamos joins Big Technology Podcast live from the Big Technology AI Summit to discuss whether the government-mandated recall of Anthropic’s Fable and Mythos models reflects a real cyber threat or industry marketing. Tune in to hear Stamos argue that the true AI cybersecurity breakthrough came a year ago with the Opus 4 and GPT-5 series, why he believes the recall makes little technical sense when models like GPT-5 and China’s Kimi can find the same bugs unrefused, and why he warns “we lost a war this weekend.” We also cover the line between bug-finding and exploit-creation, what Amazon actually found in Fable, the open letter signed by 150 researchers, the national security case for and against export controls, and what all of this means for America’s competitive position against China. Hit play for a clear-eyed, contrarian read on the biggest story in AI from someone who’s se