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DEBATE: Do People Take "DEFUND" Seriously? (w/ Matt Stoller & Alec Karakatsanis)

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November 27, 2025

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Monopoly expert Matt Stoller joins public defender, author, civil rights lawyer, & founder of Civil Rights Corp to hash out their online disagreements about the "defund" movement. Many lefty guests over the years have raised concerns with defund as a slogan or as a movement goal, but rarely do they have an opportunity to talk directly to an abolitionist and expert like Alec. This conversation represents a real step forward toward the goal better understanding why "defund" was chosen as a label, the importance of breaking from reformist movements of the past, and the root of why so many ideologically aligned people bristle at the word.

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DEBATEMatt StollerCivil Rights CorpAlec ThisBriahna Joy GrayFind Bad FaithNick Thorburn

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