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Fiona Hill Says Sondland Was on 'Political Errand' for Trump on Ukraine
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4:50Now PlayingThe House Intelligence Committee impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump heard Thursday from Fiona Hill, the former National Security Council director for Europe and Russia, and David Holmes, a Foreign Service officer at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv.
Hill said she has realized that U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland was on a “domestic political errand” on Ukraine while National Security Council personnel were carrying out foreign policy -- and that’s why Sondland wasn’t coordinating with them.
She said she met with Sondland and a few other officials shortly before she left the NSC on July 19, and that she became angry because he wasn’t coordinating with the NSC. He told her he was briefing the president, Secretary of State Michael Pompeo and others and that he said, “Who else do I have to deal with?”
She said she has since realized that “he was absolutely right because he was being involved in a domestic political errand and we were being involved in national security, foreign policy and those two things had just diverged.”
“Ambassador Sondland is not wrong that he had been given a different remit than we had been,” Hill said.
Hill said that at the time she told Sondland, “I fear this is all going to blow up.”
“And here we are,” she told the committee members Thursday.
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