Bloomberg Podcasts
Bloomberg Podcasts
@bloombergpodcasts·503K subscribers·32.4K videos

James Van Geelen on the Next Phase of the AI Buildout | Odd Lots

Posted

October 6, 2025

Views

7,315

Likes

99

Comments

4

Engagement

1.41%

Search the Record

Indexed

Every word spoken in this episode is indexed. Type any phrase to jump straight to the moment it was said.

Type any word or phrase that may have been spoken. Click a result to seek the player to that exact moment.

Try a name, a topic, or a quoted line

YouTube Description

as posted by the channel

Money has been flowing into the AI space, with billions pouring into GPU clusters, data centers, gas turbines, and the infrastructure needed to train and deploy bigger and bigger models. So what comes next? On this episode, we speak with James van Geelen, founder of Citrini Research. We talk to him about his latest field trip to one of OpenAI's new massive Stargate data centers in Abilene, Texas. We also discuss the increasingly complicated financing arrangements that are funding some of these mega projects and the energy needed to power them. Finally, we ask the question which everyone seems to be asking right now: is AI in a bubble?

Read more:

OpenAI Valuation Reaches $500 Billion, Topping Musk’s SpaceX ()

FOMO Builds as Alibaba Extends $250 Billion AIFueled Comeback ()

Only () subscribers can get the Odd Lots newsletter in their inbox each week, plus unlimited access to the site and app. Subscribe at bloomberg.com/subscriptions/oddlots ()

See omnystudio.com/listener () for privacy information.

Bloomberg's Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway analyze the weird patterns, the complex issues and the newest market crazes. Join the conversation every Monday and Thursday for interviews with the most interesting minds in finance, economics and markets.

Subscribe to Bloomberg Podcasts

Check out more Odd Lots

Get the Odd Lots newsletter via

And for all things Odd Lots, visit

Visit our other YouTube channels:

Bloomberg Television

Bloomberg Originals

#Bloomberg #Podcast #OddLots

Follow Bloomberg Podcasts on Twitter

For coverage on news, markets and more

Guests & Subjects Covered

Citrini Research WeAbilene Texas WeOpenAI Valuation ReachesBillion Topping Musks SpaceXFOMO BuildsAlibaba ExtendsBillion AI-Fueled ComebackOdd Lots

Sentinel Indexing in Progress

Metadata and chapters are available. Claim extraction for this episode is pending.

All video content is delivered via YouTube embedded players in accordance with the YouTube Terms of Service. Sentinel provides research tools that promote discovery and accountability across political media.