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1:31Now PlayingOn this episode of the Odd Lots podcast, Larissa Schiavo of Eleos AI joins Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal to talk about the organization's mission to prepare "for AI sentience and welfare."
The movement that’s looking out for AI welfare
You hear a lot about AI safety, and this idea that sufficiently advanced AI could pose some kind of threat to humans. So people are always talking about and researching "alignment" to ensure that new AI models comport with human needs and values. But what about human treatment of AI? A small, but growing number of researchers talk about AI models potentially being sentient. Perhaps they are "moral patients". Perhaps they feel some kind of equivalent of pleasure and pain. Well if so, does that raise questions about how we use AI? One day will we be talking about AI welfare the way we talk about animal rights, or humane versions of animal husbandry? On this episode we speak with Larissa Schiavo of Eleos AI. Eleos is an an organization that says its "preparing for AI sentience and welfare." In this conversation we discuss the work being done in the field, why some people think this is an important area for research, whether its in tension with AI safety, and how our use and development of AI might change in a world where models welfare were to be seen as an important consideration.
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