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31:41Now PlayingThe Justice Department told a federal judge it could not produce Jane Doe 4's FBI interview notes. Unredacted copies had been sitting on a public website since March, with her real name on them.
Cliff Schecter is joined by investigative journalists Ellie Leonard and Kait Justice for this week's EPSTEIN UPDATE, live at noon Eastern.
Jane Doe 4 says she was thirteen years old in 1981 when she met the man she knew as "Jeff" on Hilton Head Island, South Carolina. She sat for four FBI interviews in 2019. Thirty-seven pages of those interviews are missing from the Epstein files the DOJ released, and Judge Sullivan has given the department ten days to explain where they went. Days later, twenty-two pages of handwritten notes from those same interviews surfaced online, fully unredacted, uploaded to Scribd back in March by a Washington Examiner reporter and left there for five months.
Ellie Leonard has been on this story longer than anyone. She has the documents. She is here to walk through them, page by page.
IN THIS EPISODE
🔹 What the twenty-two leaked pages actually say, and what they do not
🔹 Why the DOJ told a federal judge these records were unavailable
🔹 Judge Sullivan's ten-day clock and what happens when it runs out
🔹 The unredaction: a survivor's real name, her family, and the witnesses she named, all exposed
🔹 The 1983 photograph and the crop request the FBI honored
🔹 Kait Justice on what the coverage is still getting wrong
A NOTE ON THE RECORD
Jane Doe 4's allegations against Donald Trump have not been substantiated in court, and he denies all wrongdoing. What is documented is the paper: the interviews happened, pages are missing from the released files, a federal judge has ordered the Justice Department to account for them, and unredacted notes from those interviews were publicly available for months.
READ THE REPORTING
Ellie Leonard, The Panicked Writer
Blue Amp Media, "She Asked the FBI to Crop Trump Out of the Photo"
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