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15:25Now PlayingJack Clark co-founded Anthropic, one of the world's most powerful AI companies, and has spent years arguing that the technology he's helping build could be the most disruptive force in human history - bigger than the Industrial Revolution, and happening far faster.
In this part of an episode of Ways to Change the World, he speaks to Krishnan Guru-Murthy about what AI is really doing to the labour market, why Anthropic publishes its own economic data as an early warning system for unemployment, and what governments need to do before a crisis forces their hand. Clark discusses which jobs are most at risk, why he thinks nurses and teachers could end up better paid, and whether AI companies should be taxed to fund the social safety nets their technology may dismantle. He also reflects on the lessons of COVID, the case for taxing computing power, and why, despite everything, he remains optimistic.
This is part of a longer conversation that Krishnan had with Jack for Ways to Change the World watch in full here
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