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8:21Now PlayingBen Shapiro sits down with Gavin Newsom on the governor’s podcast and addresses the backlash from his AmFest comments head-on. Ben lays out why principle matters more than popularity, calls out bad-faith attacks, and explains why so many families and businesses are fleeing California under Newsom’s leadership. Plus, we break down Newsom’s ballooning budget, the state’s decline, and why podcasting might be the only thing he’s actually governing right now.
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