Trump Was A “God of New York” Before He Was President | Chuck Todd Politics Podcast
August 14, 2025
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as posted by the channelNew York Times Magazine author Jonathan Mahler joins Chuck Todd for a deep dive into his new book “The Gods of New York” which explores the cultural and political forces that shaped New York City during its transformative 1980s era. They discuss figures like Ed Koch who pioneered the "celebrification" of NYC mayors, and Donald Trump who was considered a "fleeting cultural figure" despite learning how to manipulate tabloid culture for attention. Mahler traces the interconnected stories of power brokers like Roy Cohn, who connected Trump with NYC's elite before his death signaled the end of an era, and the complex relationship between Trump and Al Sharpton, who "fed off each other" while Sharpton strategically chose which politicians could attend high-profile funerals like that of murdered teenager Yusef Hawkins. The conversation explores how Trump inserted himself into politics through cultural commentary starting in 1988, mirroring George Steinbrenner's attention-grabbing tactics from the 1970s, while the city grappled with the AIDS epidemic and Ed Koch's failure to meet the moment due to fears of being outed.
The discussion examines the broader cultural awakening of the era, from the rise of ACT UP during the AIDS crisis to Spike Lee's movie "Do the Right Thing" serving as a wake-up call for white America, all occurring under the looming presence of Mario Cuomo, who was "larger than life" in New York politics. Mahler details how Trump mastered the art of becoming one of New York's "tabloid gods" before heading toward spectacular bankruptcy in 1990 and entering his "hibernation" period in the '90s, while also drawing parallels between historical political dynamics and contemporary figures like Zohran Mamdani. The episode concludes with insights into why transformational mayors like David Dinkins struggled with reelection and how the Yankees' resurgence became symbolic of the city's broader renewal, providing essential context for understanding how New York's unique political and cultural ecosystem created the conditions that would eventually propel Trump from local celebrity to national political figure.
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