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Best Of: Status Games, Polyamory and the Merits of Meritocracy
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1:22:45Now PlayingFor years, Agnes Callard has been on a mission to take ethical philosophy out of the ivory tower. She examines everyday human experiences jockeying for status, navigating jealousy, marriage with dazzling detail, publishing regularly in mainstream publications. And she tries to live by her philosophy, too, even if it violates social conventions, as many discovered when The New Yorker published a provocative profile of Callard () last year.
We recorded this conversation in May 2021, before the New Yorker article drew attention to the details of her home life. (She lives with both her husband and her ex-husband.) But after our episode with Rhaina Cohen about imagining relationships more expansively, we thought it would be interesting to revisit Callard, who has spent so much time dissecting the dynamics and ethics of different relationships and their possibilities.
Mentioned:
“Who Wants to Play the Status Game () ?” by Agnes Callard, The Point
“Against Advice () ,” by Agnes Callard, The Point
“The Other Woman () ,” by Agnes Callard, The Point
“Parenting and Panic () ,” by Agnes Callard, The Point
"Aspiration" () by Agnes Callard
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"TolstoyA Russian Life" () by Rosamund Bartlett
"PessoaA Biography" () by Richard Zenith
"Augustine of Hippo" () by Peter Brown
“Real Death () ” by Mount Eerie
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