February 21, 2023
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1:01:46Now PlayingIt seems as if every week the FBI search is searching the home of a person who has used, or still using, the title President or Vice President. These stories seem to be so ubiquitous that they are no longer newsworthy, well that definitely didn't stop our hosts from learning something about the world of document classification from a person who knows a thing or two about it. Professor Bob Deitz previously served as senior councillor to the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, was the general counsel at the National Security Agency, held positions as acting general counsel at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency and as acting deputy general counsel, intelligence, at the Department of Defense. In our levity filled discussion Professor Deitz unpacks everything there is to know about classifications and why the President and Vice President should be viewed differently.
We then talk a little inside baseball about what the different intelligence communities think of each other, and how the formation of the Department of National Intelligence didn't really scratch the itch after 9/11. Professor Deitz also got off about the FISA warrant...ahem...I mean order... and why it gets such a bad wrap. Finally we discuss the myth of over classification in this country and the importance of journalistic standards for publication of classified information.
Guest Bio:
Robert L. Deitz is a professor in the Schar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University. Previously, he served as senior councillor to the director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 2006 until February 2009. From September 1998 to September 2006, Deitz was the general counsel at the National Security Agency where he represented the NSA in all legal matters. He has also held positions as acting general counsel at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency and as acting deputy general counsel, intelligence, at the Department of Defense.
Deitz began his career as a law clerk to the Honorable Justices Douglas, Stewart, and White of the United States Supreme Court. He has also been in private practice and was special assistant to Deputy Secretary of State Warren Christopher and to Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare Joseph Califano during the Carter Administration.
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