Breaking Barriers: LGBTQ+ Inclusion in the Methodist Church w/Dr. Ashley Boggan

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In this episode of Faithful Politics, hosts Will Wright and Pastor Josh Burtram welcome Dr. Ashley Boggan, the General Secretary of the General Commission on Archives and History for the United Methodist Church (UMC). Dr. Boggan shares her journey and passion for Methodist history, mentioning her role in ensuring the UMC understands its past to envision a more equitable future. She recounts the humorous anecdote of giving a John Wesley bobblehead to Pope Francis during an ecumenical meeting in Rome.

The discussion delves into the origins of Methodism, highlighting John Wesley's efforts to renew the Church of England by emphasizing mission and social acts, and explaining the methodical approach to faith that led to the church's name. Dr. Boggan provides a comprehensive overview of the UMC's historical stance on LGBTQ+ issues, including the 1972 incompatibility clause and subsequent bans on LGBTQ+ advocacy, ordination, and same-sex marriages. She highlights the recent General Conference's decision to remove prohibitive language against LGBTQ+ persons, marking a significant shift in the church's stance.

Dr. Boggan contrasts the emotional and spiritual atmosphere of this conference with past ones marked by tension and division. She explains the significance of removing prohibitive language while avoiding explicit affirming language to prevent alienating conservative members. Emphasizing the importance of historians in holding the church accountable, she discusses the need for continuous education and accountability regarding the church's past actions and policies.

Reflecting on her personal journey with faith and the Methodist Church's evolving stance on sexuality, Dr. Boggan expresses hope for the future. She notes that the immediate impacts of recent changes are not fully clear, but stresses the importance of focusing on the church's mission rather than membership numbers. The episode concludes with insights into the role of historians and the significance of creating a more inclusive environment within the UMC.

Guest Bio:

Dr. Ashley Boggan D. is the General Secretary of the General Commission on Archives and History. In this role, she ensures that the UMC understands its past in order to envision a more equitable future for all Methodists. Boggan earned her PhD from Drew Theological School’s Graduate Division of Religion, specializing in both Methodist/Wesleyan Studies and Women’s/Gender Studies. She earned an M.A. from the University of Chicago’s Divinity School, specializing in American Religious History.

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