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Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor w/Caleb Campbell
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In this conversation, Caleb Campbell discusses his book 'Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor' and the rise of Christian nationalism in America. He shares his personal experiences with Christian nationalism within his congregation and the broader Christian community. Campbell explains the metaphor of Leviathan and how it represents the chaotic and evil forces that work against the ordered ways of God. He also explores the reasons why people are drawn to Christian nationalism, including the fear of ethnic erasure and the desire for power and protection. Campbell highlights the role of pastors and politicians in perpetuating Christian nationalism and the need for deep biblical literacy and critical thinking. In this conversation, Caleb E. Campbell discusses his approach to engaging with Christian nationalism and offers practical techniques for having conversations with Christian nationalists. He emphasizes the importance of a pastoral approach, focusing on the heart rather than the head. Campbell suggests inviting Christian nationalists into a safe and hospitable environment, engaging in humble subversion, and asking questions that challenge the tension between their beliefs and the teachings of Jesus. He also highlights the need for humility and open-mindedness in these conversations, recognizing that both sides have something to learn from each other. Campbell's prayer for the upcoming election season is for the church to receive the unveiling of what's really going on and to work towards a fresh expression of the church that transcends Americanness.
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Pastor Campbell graduated Summa Cum Laude with a Masters of Arts in Ministry from Phoenix Seminary in 2015 and is currently a doctoral student at Fuller Theological Seminary.
He has served at Desert Springs Bible Church, in Phoenix, AZ since 2006, serving as Lead Pastor since 2015.
He also serves on the board of United Pastors of Arizona and as the state-wide regional director of the Surge Network. He has spoken at events hosted by Acts 29, African American Christian Clergy Coalition, the Surge Network, Grand Canyon University, Converge Arizona, Young Life and Phoenix Seminary
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