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House Republicans are at each other's throats and a strong sense of distrust has taken hold of them - all over a document that might not even exist. What's happening is that the Republicans that did NOT object to McCarthy becoming Speaker believe that he made secret deals with the holdouts and that there is a document outlining all the cool "prizes" they're getting in exchange for finally stopping the obstruction. Farron Cousins discusses this bizarre Republican infighting.
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Republicans in the House of Representatives are once again at each other's throats, not trusting each other, thinking that there's a hell of a lot of backstabbing going on over a document that some Republican members swear exists while others claim doesn't exist at all. So there is this mythical document that may or may not be real, might be floating around. Congress could be in the hands of a lobbyist, maybe it was at a PowerPoint that Kevin McCarthy gave, and he'll get to all of those points in just a moment. But these republicans, your, your, your holdouts, the ones who didn't wanna vote for McCarthy, the ones who did support McCarthy, nobody trusts anybody because nobody knows if this document exists. So I know by now you're wondering, well, Farren, what the hell is in the document? This alleged document, again, maybe it's real, maybe it's not, is supposed to contain all of the concessions that Kevin McCarthy made and agreed to, most importantly, to the holdouts.
So it's a list saying, I promise, I swear I will do this, this, this, X, Y, and Z. Here's the document so that you can hold me accountable. Well, McCarthy says it doesn't exist. Members of the Freedom Caucus say it doesn't exist. Some members of the Freedom Caucus say it does exist. McCarthy supporters say, oh, it exists. While some McCarthy supporters say, no, it doesn't exist. So it's not like last week the Freedom Caucus against everybody else. It's everybody against everybody because nobody trusts anybody. Let me read this. This is from Representative Dave Joyce from Ohio who leads the Republican governance group. He said, there's all these people talking about a document that doesn't exist. You've got members who don't believe other members because they read something. It's about trust. You either trust people or you don't.
Well, representative Joyce, apparently they don't because they don't know what all McCarthy agreed to because we still haven't even gotten to that point yet. Oh, he's made concessions like, I'm gonna put these people on this committee even though they probably shouldn't be on that committee. But if I do that, that means moderates are gonna be off the committee because the Democrats get a certain number of seats. So is it in writing? Is it not in writing? Here's where it gets even more interesting. After of course they're like, no, it totally doesn't exist. This is from Politico. Three Republican lawmakers said G O P leaders did put something in writing. It was a PowerPoint slideshow presented to members at Tuesday's conference meeting. He went through the agreement at conference. He had it all on the PowerPoint, said one McCarthy
Ally speaking on the condition of anonymity. So McCarthy's allies say this, this document isn't real. Right? That's what Joyce is over here saying like, what are they talking about? They're nuts. Then you got another McCarthy Ally who's like, not only is it real, he put it at a PowerPoint and he showed us all on Tuesday think, why is there any debate about this? We all saw the PowerPoint and here's where things get even nuttier. I mentioned the lobbyists, right, let me read this. Members who asked about a binding document of concessions were told it did not exist. Representative Chip Roy of Texas, one of the Wright flanks chief negotiators with McCarthy, said K Street lobbyist had circulated a document last week claiming it, listed out all the conferences agreements in full, including some he had never seen before. So now catch up on everything. We don't know if the document exists, and one of the reasons the people are getting off about it is because the document may contain items that they didn't even know were in there, but they had already agreed to and Kevin McCarthy allegedly agreed to. So now they wanna see it because they wanna make sure they didn't get screwed, but it may not exist, but the lobbyist had it. You see how crazy this is, and I'm not even done yet. It gets so much more fun.
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