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4:14Now PlayingKevin McCarthy is still angry about being ousted as the House Speaker, and he wants revenge against Matt Gaetz. During a brief conversation with a CNN reporter, McCarthy said that Congress would be a lot better if Gaetz were no longer around, but he said that would be a decision left up to the caucus. Not only does this show that McCarthy wants vengeance, but it also strongly suggests that this is a conversation that may already be taking place. Farron Cousins explains what's happening.
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'Former Republican House speaker Kevin McCarthy is still bitter about losing his job. And at this point it appears that he wants vengeance against the very people who kicked him out in the first place. Number one on his list is none other than Matt Gates. During a recent brief conversation with CNM reporter, Manu Raju, Raju asked McCarthy quote, how much would the Republican party benefit if he were no longer a member of the house, in your opinion? I mean, pretty, pretty loaded question, right? Like basically asking like, Hey, wouldn't it be awesome if Matt Gaetz just wasn't around anymore? To which Kevin McCarthy responded, quote, oh, tremendously. I mean, people have to earn the right to be here and, and I just think from, I, I mean he'll admit to you personally, he doesn't have a conservative bent in his philosophy and just the nature of what he focuses on.
Raju then followed up by asking, well, I mean, should Congress consider expelling Matt Gaetz and here's what Kevin McCarthy had to say about that, and you'll notice that this isn't a wow. What a weird question. Nobody's even thought of that. Instead, McCarthy said quote, that's up to the conference. But I mean, I don't believe the conference will ever heal if there's no consequences for the action. So should Congress expel Matt Gaetz, Hey, whoa, why? Like, that's a little extreme. Like we're definitely not even considering that would be the response you would expect. Not like, well, that's, that's up to the whole conference, right? The, the Republican caucus gonna have to get together and decide that, that, that that's not a denial. That that's something you guys have already discussed. And the reason that is so important is because Kevin McCarthy knows that he's not gonna get rid, rid of Matt Gaetz through the electoral process.
Matt Gaetz is going to continue winning reelection in this district because it's a deep red district. Doesn't matter what he does, doesn't matter what he's been accused of doing, he is safe here. The only way he's leaving office is if one, he does it voluntarily on his own and says, I'm not running for the house anymore. I'm gonna go run for something else. Or through expulsion, which by the way, he could then just run for election again because it doesn't prevent you from doing that. And then he could get right back into the house. But the expulsion thing is interesting because as we know right now, we have the House ethics committee that's investigating Matt Gaetz. We have members of Congress that during the whole speaker drama started going out and telling us things about Matt Gaetz, you know, him showing the pictures, the, uh, drug fueled, you know, whatever, um, things that we didn't necessarily already know, but things that could have been revealed to these Republicans during their investigation of Matt Gaetz. So that's why I do think it's interesting that
McCarthy didn't immediately dismiss the idea of expulsion, because I think clearly this is something some Republicans have talked about. And I do think it's based on the information that they have uncovered in that investigation for which, by the way, we still do not have the results from, it could be anything. It could be nothing. It could be a big something, but not saying that expulsion was a hundred percent off the table I is kind of a flag for me, right? I don't wanna say it's a red flag 'cause I'd love to see Gates expelled, but it's definitely a flag. McCarthy is not an idiot. He chose his words wisely. And by not denying that expulsion is something that they have talked about, instead saying, Hey, it's up to the caucus, kind of leads me to think that McCarthy knows a lot more than what he's actually telling us.
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