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4:25Now PlayingA newly-released audio recording of Donald Trump reveals the former President was actively involved in the scheme to toss the electoral college results in Michigan and replace the Biden electors with fake Trump electors. The call also included RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel, where she and Trump were heard promising to get lawyers for two workers if they used the fake electors. THIS is the smoking gun in so many cases against Trump, as Farron Cousins explains.
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Donald Trump has now been revealed on an audio phone call to have pressured Georgia election workers, uh, specifically two individuals, uh, one by the name of Monica Palmer, and one by the name of William Hartman. They were actually canvassers for Donald Trump. Trump. And by the way, RNC Chairwoman Rona McDaniel were heard on this audio tape that has now been revealed by the Detroit News, pressuring these two canvassers to not certify the election results for their county in Michigan. And both Ronna and Donald Trump promise these canvassers, don't worry. We'll get you some good lawyers. Here's what we know from the conversation. Trump told, uh, Palmer and Hartman quote, we've gotta fight for our country. We can't let these people take our country away from us. Uh, McDon McDaniel told Palmer and Hartman quote, if you can go home tonight, do not sign it. We will get you attorneys.
Trump then said, we'll take care of that. Here's more from the Detroit News. Palmer and Hartman left the canvassers meeting without signing the official statement of votes for Wayne County, and the following day, they unsuccessfully attempted to rescind their votes in favor of certification, filing, legal affidavits, claiming they were pressured. The moves from Palmer, Hartman and Trump, had they been successful, threatened to throw the statewide certification of Michigan's 2020 election in doubt if you were looking for a smoking gun in any of the cases involving Donald Trump in his attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. This is it. I am, I am definitely willing to say at this point, after everything we have seen, this is a smoking gun. This is Donald Trump himself, directly involved with pressuring these individuals to not certify the votes from Wayne County, Michigan. That's, that's the conspiracy. They, that is what this guy has been charged with.
This is as much of a smoking gun as that phone call in Georgia. You know, go find the votes. But I think this one's actually more intense 'cause here is Donald Trump telling low level people, people that he otherwise would never be on the telephone with, but he is directly telling them not to certify. And I will get you lawyers. Now, Michigan has an ongoing investigation. They recently indicted several individuals, I think it was six of them, uh, for being fake Trump electors. But the investigation is not over. And as far as we know, I think Kenneth Chesbro, one of Donald Trump's former lawyers, is also cooperating in that probe. It would not surprise me with this new evidence being revealed if Donald Trump gets hit with
Criminal charges in Michigan the same way he was in Georgia. Because the way I'm reading this, the way this story plays itself out is that Trump basically did the exact same thing in Michigan that got him charged, you know, with the racketeering charges in Georgia. Same thing as far as I can see based on this evidence that, by the way, the January 6th committee actually had this phone call and, and it, it was an up to 11 minute phone call and only four minutes of the audio have been released. So there's seven more minutes that we, the public have not heard about. Michigan's Attorney General, Dana Nessel heard it, the January 6th committee heard it. Why are we just now hearing about this? This, this kind of seems like something we all should have known about a long time ago, and I'm sure Jack Smith knows about it.
But by God, this seems like it's, it's very important for the public to understand how involved Trump was, because this was not just Donald Trump telling his lawyer to tell this guy to tell this person to go get that person to do it. This was Trump on the phone himself. That's the smoking gun. And I do think, and I do hope the state of Michigan brings criminal charges against Donald Trump. Let's see if we can push that 91 total felony charges to over a hundred with this one, because I think this case right here, pretty much in the bag with this evidence that they've got.
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