Undecided Voters Say They'll NEVER Vote For Convicted Felon Trump

According to Republican pollster Frank Luntz, he's hearing some bad news for Donald Trump while talking to Independent voters. These voters are telling Luntz that under no circumstances will they vote for someone that is a convicted felon. Many of these sentiments have been echoed in recent polling data, but hearing the quote from the voters themselves takes it to a whole new level. Farron Cousins explains what's happening.

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Conservative pollster, Frank Lu is running into a bit of an issue with, uh, independent swing voters. And that issue is that ever since Donald Trump's criminal conviction, those swing voters seem a lot less likely to vote for the Republican candidate. Here is what the New York Times reported, Frank Luntz conducted a focus group for the New York Times, and they reported this. All 11 participants in our Times Opinion focus group were swing voters. They had supported or been open to Hillary Clinton or Mr. Biden at least once in 20 16, 20 20, or 2024, and backed or considered Mr. Trump at least once in those years as well. These voters all said they were struck by the verdict, even swayed in different ways. Yet Mr. Trump's guilt didn't decisively turn them against the former president. A point that was Mr. Lutz's biggest takeaway from the group. Inflation, the economy, immigration and abortion were the things that they said would ultimately determine their votes.

Now, the reason I read you that is 'cause that's a little interesting, right? He's like, well, I mean, you know, it didn't necessarily sway them to not vote for Trump. And then it immediately goes on to quote these people who say that they will never vote for Donald Trump. You have one 55-year-old social worker who said, uh, she wasn't excited for Biden and said that she would need a very stiff drink after voting for him. However, Mr. Trump was now beyond the pale. She said, I cannot have the president be a convicted felon. Full stop. A 31-year-old said this, I'm an attorney. Say what you want about the charging decision and the prosecutorial discretion of Alvin Bragg. But at the end of the day, 12 people in a box, and you never know what 12 people in a box are going to do, we're able to come to a decision.

So he also agrees they did this. There it is. The report continues. If these voters are any indication, the guilty verdict will complicate Mr. Trump's bid for the White House character and integrity mattered for the presidency and discussed with Mr. Trump could tip the scales for some of them in the end. And that's the thing. This isn't about turning away all of the independent or undecided or swing voters or whatever the hell you want to call them. Those are the people who typically it may be even split, maybe 55, 45, 1 way or the other. But what these people are saying, like literally saying is that I don't like Biden, but there's no way in hell I'm going to vote for a convicted felon. So maybe I need a stiff drink after I vote for Biden, but I'm not gonna vote for the other guy. When you have these people who could go one way or the other telling you where they're not gonna go, that's a bad sign. And it does, contrary to what Lu claims, it does show that this conviction is swaying voters in the opposite direction of Donald Trump.

So you can't sit there and listen to these people say these horrible things about Trump and the conviction, and then be like, well, it didn't really sway any of them. They literally told you it swayed them. Like that is insane that the New York Times would even publish months saying that. But it is what it is. Independent voters are being turned off and poll after poll following the conviction has shown the exact same thing. There are no outliers, folks, and it, it is completely different too when you hear them say the words, you know, like that, that one person that I read said, it's beyond the pale to consider voting for a convicted felon. You know, it's one thing to say it to a pollster like, no, I'm leaning Biden now, not leaning Trump. But to hear the rationale behind it and to publish the rationale behind it encourages more group think. I promise you, there's no undecided voters in this country who following Donald Trump's conviction are saying, oh hell yeah, I'm definitely voting for him Now that's not happening. And if it is, it's happening in such a small number that those people are being far outweighed by the voters that have now been turned off.