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18:14Now PlayingMolly Jong-Fast welcomes Democracy Docket's Marc Elias to discuss the political climate heading into the midterm elections, focusing on Donald Trump’s apparent strategy of “putting all of his eggs in the voter suppression and election subversion basket” rather than pursuing policies that could broaden support. Mark explains how efforts like the SAVE Act could make voting significantly harder—especially for Black voters with lower passport ownership rates and for married women whose current last names may not match their birth certificates—and argues that Trump is unusually direct about trying to subvert election outcomes. They also talk about the “reflecting pool” case as an example of the gap between political rhetoric and what can withstand scrutiny in court, comparing it to Rudy Giuliani’s post-2020 election claims that collapsed under judicial questioning. The discussion broadens to how “Trumpism infects” people in his orbit—citing figures like Giuliani, Jeanine Pirro, Doug Burgum, and Todd Blanche—and ends with a warning that the rule of law will eventually reassert itself, leaving many who enabled or participated in wrongdoing exposed to lasting reputational and legal consequences.
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