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Why the Wealth Tax Debate Misses the Real Problem | Bob Lord, Patriotic Millionaires
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57:30Now PlayingEconomist Clara Mattei and tax attorney Bob Lord expose how the US tax code was engineered to build the billionaire oligarchy — and why wealth taxes alone won't fix it.
Bob Lord, senior vice president for tax policy at the Patriotic Millionaires and 35-year tax attorney, joins Clara Mattei to break down the mechanics of wealth inequality hiding inside the US tax code — from capital gains and unrealized income to regressive taxation, Social Security caps, and how billionaires legally avoid taxes for decades.
The top 0.00001% of Americans — just 19 people — made nearly $1 trillion per year for the past two years. That's not just asset values rising. It's a tax system designed to let billionaire wealth compound tax-free while workers get taxed every two weeks.
In this episode of FREE, Bob Lord explains:
• How capital gains and unrealized wealth allow billionaires to avoid income tax indefinitely
• Why Jeff Bezos paid ~2.4% effective tax rate while his Amazon stock grew 50%+ per year for 32 years
• How regressive taxation — Social Security caps, sales taxes, property taxes, fines — extracts wealth from workers while protecting the top
• Why eliminating state income and property taxes is the next phase of the wealth transfer
• The difference between a wealth tax and fixing the real structural problem
• What local organizing and ballot initiatives have accomplished — and what's possible in Tulsa and beyond
Bob Lord is senior vice president for tax policy at the Patriotic Millionaires and associate fellow at the Institute for Policy Studies. Find out more: @PatrioticMillionaires
FREE is hosted by Clara Mattei, economist and author of The Capital Order, as seen on Channel 4, Breaking Points, and more.
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