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2:08Now PlayingA decade ago, Casey Gerald was running a celebrated nonprofit, giving TED talks, and on magazine covers as proof that the American dream still works. Then he shut it all down and disappeared from public life. Now, in a new book, 'The Great Refusal,' he turns his leaving into an argument about the limits of the American dream. He spoke with Fresh Air co-host Tonya Mosley about why he ruined his reputation to save his life.
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