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Beyond the Veil: Episode Three - The
Closing of the Daybellian Mind
July 15, 2020
EPISODE LENGTH 100:23
Audio clip of Chad Daybell “this is how people think I act. There’s Woody Harrelson, in the movie
‘2012’…”
Analysis of Daybell comparing himself to a fictional character and a conspiracy theorist
Analogy about a 3 legged stool and the foundation of this analysis and the factor of closed-
mindedness comes into play with Chad Daybell and his eventual crimes
Explanation of mental maps and the role they play in family culture and relationships
Extreme Mormonism
Family therapist by the name of Boszormenyi-Nagy who’s argued that closed families expect a
degree of loyalty around the same beliefs, and, if you think about that, children whose survival
depends upon being accepted by their families
Chad's brother came out with a statement during the investigation, pleading for Chad to
cooperate with the investigation.
Carol Dweck, who is a psychologist at Stanford, has done a lot of research on what she calls
mindset versus nurture debate
Something else that comes into play which is really, really important in terms of understanding
Chad Daybell, and that's what’s called confirmation bias. Confirmation bias was described by the
psychologist Scott Lilienfeld
Examples from his books to kind of show his closed-mindedness
Background on Chad’s LDS Mission, explanation on how Chad filters everything through this
closed mindset of ghosts and paranormal experiences
Jennifer Crocker’s psychological studies early on about confirmation bias
Research findings about the paranormal that psychologists have found, is something called
illusory pattern perception
Thomas Gilovich, who teaches at Cornell, in 1985. And it's called the “hot hand phenomenon.”
And how that research might apply to someone like Chad.
Audio clip of Chad Daybell describing a ghost named Eddie from one of his books.
John Martin Fischer is a philosopher provides distinction between intuitive and analytical
thinking how this could apply to Chad’s visions
Chad’s near death experiences discussion
Explanation of “Veil” in Mormon doctrine
Police released these emails that Chad wrote to Lori explaining his rating system
Chad’s after hours prepper event pendulum/ necklace trick
Playing on people’s vulnerabilities, their desire to feel special
Chad Daybell’s train dream from AVOW
What’s the lesson from Joshua Bell, and these moments of transcendence in terms of Chad Daybell
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DR. JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience in both clinical and forensic work. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and has consulted on numerous high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states and currently consults for criminal cases.
In the forensic area, Dr. Matthias has developed expertise in personality assessments, hidden behavioral motivations, complex trauma and criminal psychology. In the clinical realm, he has worked with numerous victims. He received his Master’s degree in Marriage, Family and Child counseling, as well his doctorate degree, from the University of Southern California.
Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day.
LAUREN MATTHIAS has worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in Idaho and Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah. In 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award. She left the reporting world to produce the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist.
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