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Trump’s Future Depends on His Immigration Crackdown | Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
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42:33Now PlayingWhat is Trumpism after Elon Musk? Has immigration become the new litmus test for the Republican Party? In this episode, Ross Douthat talks to Matthew Continetti, the author of “The Right: The Hundred-Year War for American Conservatism,” about the party’s shifting coalition, the defining role of immigration and how today’s right echoes its past.
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This episode of “Interesting Times” was produced by Elisa Gutierrez, Sophia Alvarez Boyd, Andrea Betanzos and Katherine Sullivan. It was edited by Jordana Hochman. Mixing and engineering by Pat McCusker. Cinematography by Marina King, Nathan Shinholdt and Nick Midwig. Video editing by Jan Kobal and Dani Dillon. Original music by Isaac Jones, Sonia Herrero, Pat McCusker and Aman Sahota. Fact-checking by Kate Sinclair, Michelle Harris and Mary Marge Locker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski. Video directed by Jonah M. Kessel. The director of Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
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