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Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump and MAGA’s Anger | Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
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Julie K. Brown thinks Jeffrey Epstein didn’t act alone. On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross talks to Brown, the investigative reporter whose work ultimately led to Epstein’s re-arrest, about what the government could release that it hasn’t and how the story is bigger than Epstein.
• 2:32 - Brown's initial interest in the Epstein case
• 5:26 - Discovering Epstein's crimes and the plea deal
• 13:13 - Epstein's victims and the impact of Brown's reporting
• 18:20 - Epstein's wealth and connections
• 25:20 - Epstein's social circles
• 35:01 - Certainty and unsolved mysteries
• 45:25 - The role of government in the case
• 51:04 - Trump and the political fallout
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