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59:05Now PlayingYou guys remember 19 Kids and Counting? Well, those kids are all grown up now, and their stories are powerful.
Today I sat down with Jinger Duggar Vuolo and her husband Jeremy for a real, honest conversation about faith, family, and what it looks like to disentangle Christianity from the kind of legalism that weaponizes fear. We talk Bill Gothard, the courtship culture, the pressure of growing up in the public eye, and the painful-but-beautiful process of leaving your family of origin to build something new.
And then—my favorite part—we get into their brand-new kids book, You Always Belong, and why this message of identity, security, and belonging in Christ is exactly what kids (and honestly, adults) desperately need in a world that’s constantly trying to tell you you’re only as valuable as other people’s approval.
Purchase Jinger’s new book here 👉
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