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45:10Now PlayingPeter Godfrey-Smith – philosopher of mind and author of Other Minds – argues that animals are conscious and that factory farming is an abomination. But he still eats them.
In this interview, we explore the world of animal consciousness: octopus minds, the evolution of sentience, panpsychism, and the moral tension of loving animals while making a case for killing them.
Peter is best known for his bestselling book Other Minds: The Octopus, the Sea, and the Deep Origins of Consciousness – a landmark work on cephalopod intelligence and the philosophy of mind.
I’ll share some thoughts on our conversation in the comments section. I hope you enjoy the discussion; let me know what you think!
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Peter’s Website
Other Minds (Peter’s bestseller)
Philosophers on Consciousness (Jack’s book)
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