Joe Rogan Experience #737 - Lance Armstrong

Social media users mock Armstrong's family Christmas photo

Entire Tour de France cycling sport was systematically doped

Armstrong and team collectively decided to use EPO in 1995

Cycling bans cortisone while NFL allows it for performance enhancement

All performance enhancement is relative; sports need clear doping lines

Armstrong forced to enter deceptive doping territory to compete

Armstrong's lying and mistreatment of others worse than doping itself

Armstrong admits he would have lied repeatedly to Joe Rogan

Armstrong's aggressive competitive nature extended to mistreating others

Armstrong claims to have apologized to and reconciled with victims

Armstrong's lie enabled Livestrong Foundation to generate hundreds of millions

Armstrong's deception destroyed Livestrong Foundation's effectiveness

Armstrong scapegoated for systemic doping in entire cycling sport

Armstrong's high-profile story motivated federal investigation

Federal investigators pursued Armstrong for publicity, not justice

Cycling sport organized like corrupt South American economy

Extreme competitiveness and aggression necessary to win in cycling

Armstrong won through superior intensity and competitive edge

Modern technology enables better training management than past eras

Armstrong's exposure causes all modern cyclists to be questioned

Armstrong claims he would have won without doping

In doped sport, better doping determines winner, not talent

Tour de France records erased for Armstrong's seven wins

Other doped cyclists' records stand while Armstrong's erased

Armstrong claims defeated rivals acknowledge he won the races

Armstrong's deception easier in pre-social media era

Armstrong found no immediate relief from confessing to Oprah

Armstrong forced to confess to Oprah by federal pressure

Armstrong's Oprah confession satisfied neither critics nor supporters

Armstrong forced out of Livestrong Foundation after confession

Livestrong Foundation devastated by Armstrong scandal

Dutch cyclists died from EPO use in 1980s

Armstrong risked health by doping after surviving cancer

Armstrong believed EPO posed no health risk despite cancer history

Armstrong avoided growth hormone after cancer due to health concerns

Armstrong's training and diet claims were cover for doping

Armstrong starved himself and trained obsessively after cancer recovery

Modern cyclists unfairly questioned about Armstrong's 1999 doping

Armstrong scandal permanently defines cycling in United States

Armstrong sole public face of cycling in United States

Armstrong uncomfortable with objective discussion of his situation

Internet enables billions to voice opinions about Armstrong

Armstrong's children largely spared from social media backlash

Armstrong faced massive legal blowback after Oprah confession

Armstrong settled multiple lawsuits from sponsors and insurers

Federal postal case against Armstrong ongoing since 2012

Federal investigation of Armstrong wasteful compared to financial crimes

Federal investigation of Armstrong was McCarthyism targeting cyclists

Armstrong disputes Novitzki's account in podcast interview

Novitzki opportunistically pursued Armstrong case for career advancement

Novitzki misrepresented cost of Barry Bonds investigation

Federal government spending on investigations is excessive

Novitzki's aggressive tactics exposed doping but motivated by publicity

Novitzki's UFC drug testing caused fighters to drop off substantially

UFC allowed testosterone replacement creating superhuman fighters

Armstrong defers to Rogan's UFC expertise

Doping so pervasive in Tour de France that removing it wouldn't change winners

USADA's 2012 ban made 1999-2005 doping seem like current event

USADA ignored statute of limitations to prosecute Armstrong

Armstrong addressed doping accusations in Nike commercial before confession

Armstrong lacked advisors to challenge his decisions

Armstrong's aggressive denials fueled media scrutiny

Armstrong's competitive aggression extended to mistreating people off the bike

Armstrong's deception became impossible to stop once started

Armstrong's friends and family used don't ask, don't tell approach

Rogan jokes about how he would have handled federal investigation

Nike and US Postal Service knew about Armstrong's doping

Federal government suing Armstrong for $100 million fraud

Armstrong claims Postal Service profited hundreds of millions from sponsorship

Armstrong argues Postal Service suffered no damages from his doping

Armstrong sold assets to pay legal bills and reduced lifestyle

Armstrong found happiness in simpler life after losing wealth

Armstrong earns money through speaking engagements and investments

Armstrong scandal created industry of books, documentaries, and media

All sponsors abandoned Armstrong after scandal

Armstrong learned who his true friends were after scandal

Postmaster general confused adversity with diversity

Armstrong has five children from two relationships

Armstrong's children will eventually learn about his doping scandal

Armstrong's son Luke defended him at school before scandal broke

Armstrong fears his son will face doping pressure in football

Doping pressure in football similar to cycling

USADA strategically packaged and publicized Armstrong findings

USADA pursued Armstrong to prove effectiveness and set legal precedent

Armstrong denies being greatest fraud or forcing teammates to dope

Armstrong faces lifetime of rebuilding trust after years of deception

Armstrong has not imposed strict rules against lying

Armstrong rarely rides bikes anymore due to time constraints

Armstrong has bitterness about cycling industry abandoning him

Austin's rapid growth has created traffic problems

Armstrong admires Hunter S. Thompson's philosophy on heroes

Armstrong's Aspen sheriff friend said Hunter Thompson would have liked him

Hunter Thompson had diverse group of famous friends

Hunter Thompson's published daily drug regime was understated

Hunter Thompson's drug use destroyed his health and coherence

Hunter Thompson's daily drug and alcohol consumption detailed

Armstrong was a legend whose fall disappointed people seeking heroes

Armstrong's cancer story made his fall from grace more devastating

Modern transparency would destroy legends like Sinatra, JFK, and Jordan

Future neural implants will eliminate privacy and personal boundaries

People are psychologically dependent on smartphones

Social media distracts guests during podcast interviews

Armstrong welcomes confrontational questions from audience members

Armstrong enjoys verbal sparring and confrontation

Future technology will eliminate all personal secrets

Loss of privacy through technology is inevitable

Everyone's private information will eventually be public

Ashley Madison hack exposed people's private affairs publicly