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Who is Ethan Hsieh Beyond the Facilitator? | Teaching, Play & What TIAMAT is For

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Who is Ethan Hsieh beyond the facilitator - and what does it mean to say the world is fundamentally open for play?

John Vervaeke, Ethan Hsieh, and Taylor Barratt close out a three-part series on theory, practice, and the relationship between them - with Ethan at the center.

This session was originally recorded in front of a live audience on Wednesday, May 7, 2026.

John Vervaeke joins Ethan Hsieh and Taylor Barratt for the third and final conversation in a series on theory, practice, and the relationship between them.

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Ethan, John, and Taylor explore the distinction between teaching and facilitation - and what that reveals about how theory and practice actually relate. Ethan reflects on his journey from actor training into pedagogical design, on why practice can challenge and correct theory just as theory corrects practice, and on the deep personal question of what TIAMAT is ultimately for.

They examine:

the difference between teaching and facilitation - and why it hinges on responsibility and longitudinal care

Aristotle's sophia and phronesis as a map for the teacher/facilitator divide

how theory legitimates practice - and how practice exposes what theory fails to account for

why being too precious about either theory or practice creates a vicious cycle

what an ecology of practices is trying to do - and why there's no panacea

TIAMAT's purpose: psycho-education, self-knowledge, and affording a good life without becoming a religion

what SPIRE stands for - and what the facilitator training is actually for

why relationality is primordial - not something we achieve, but something we forget

the actor training roots of TIAMAT and why serious play is transformative

joy as genuine contact with reality - not pleasure, not comfort, but being truly coupled to what is real

This is the third and final episode in a three-part series on theory-to-practice, practice-to-theory, and the relationship between them.

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