Baron Black of Crossharbour | Lord Conrad Black | EP 181

Description: This episode was recorded on May 7th 2021

In this episode of the Jordan Peterson Podcast, Jordan is joined by Lord Conrad Black. Conrad Black is a Canadian-born British peer, and former publisher of The London Daily Telegraph, The Spectator, The Chicago Sun-Times, The Jerusalem Post, and founder of Canada's National Post. He is a columnist and regular contributor to several publications, including the National Review Online, The New Criterion, The National Interest, American Greatness, The New York Sun, and the National Post.

Lord Conrad Black and Jordan discuss his life, how he got into history, education, the newspaper business, living in Britain, his experience with Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan, incarceration, becoming a tutor, and much more.

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[00:00] Introduction

[00:18] Jordan introduces this episode’s guest Lord Conrad Black

[02:23] Lord Black’s childhood

[06:25] Lord Black’s father and his encouragement

[15:15] When Lord Black started to take reading more seriously.

[18:30] His growing interest in history

[24:40] His experience at school (before University) and his ambitions

[37:00] His university experience

[43:55] Why he bought the newspaper, what his undergraduate did for him, and why he went to a French university for law school

[51:26] Why he chose law school

[52:40] How he managed to do all of that at once

[53:26] How much time it took to write a monthly paper and the usefulness of writing deadlines

[55:23] When he was in prison in the United States and becoming a tutor

[01:06:00] What inspired his writing on Duplessis

[01:11:28] The newspaper business

[01:18:50] Expanding the newspaper to the US and managing his time

[01:23:50] Living in Britain and working with Margaret Thatcher

[01:33:10] What allowed Margaret Thatcher to do what she did

[01:42:34] Term Limits

[01:45:30] Continuation about Margaret Thatcher

[01:49:50] Lord Conrad Black's impression of Ronald Reagan

[01:55:29] Becoming a Lord in Britain

[02:02:40] His media empire

[02:04:45] When trouble started to brew

[02:14:30] How he feels about his legacy and what has happened

Visit www.jordanbpeterson.com to view more information about Jordan, his books, lectures, social media, blog posts, and more.

Jordan B. Peterson is a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, a clinical psychologist, and the author of the multi-million copy bestseller 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, #1 for nonfiction in 2018 in the US, Canada, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Sweden, the Netherlands, Brazil and Norway, and slated for translation into 50 languages.

Dr. Peterson has appeared on many popular podcasts and shows, including the Joe Rogan Experience (877, 958, 1006), The Rubin Report (12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos, Free Speech, Psychology, Gender Pronouns), H3H3 (#37), and many more. Dr. Peterson’s own podcast has focused mainly on his lecture series, covering a great deal of psychology and historical content. Jordan is expanding his current podcast from lectures to interviews with influential people around the world. We hope you enjoy this episode and more to come from Dr. Peterson in the future.

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