Beauty is the Point | Joe Hage | EP 352

Ep. 352

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Peterson draws upon his extensive research and relatable real-life experiences to illustrate how to develop attainable goals for intimate relationships, meaningful friendships, and your career. Transform the chaotic potential of the future into actuality — with a vision.

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Joe Hage discuss the world of litigation in the UK, following your interests and the ability to commodify them, the importance of fine art, and objective beauty that can be found in our species greatest efforts.

Joe Hage is the founder of HENI Group, an international art services business working with leading artists and estates across publishing, print-making, digital, film and art research and analysis.

Joe graduated from the University of York with a BA in philosophy and went on to do postgraduate research in philosophy at the University of Cambridge. He qualified as a chartered accountant with PricewaterhouseCoopers and has served as the managing partner of the law firm Joseph Hage Aaronson since March 2013.

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(0:00) Coming up

(1:38) Intro

(3:05) 1967, arrival in the US

(6:26) Being poor versus not having money

(10:10) Childhood in Wimbledon

(11:44) Children like genuine responsibility

(13:31) Parental relationships

(15:25) Positive manifestation

(16:48) Gift of faith

(18:46) Religion as a useful ritual

(21:25) The sermon on the mount

(23:11) Reflection and mass

(25:43) How to get outside of micro routines

(29:25) The walls that box you in are often self-imposed

(32:53) Breaking shackles, existence on the boundaries

(36:19) Thriving in chaos

(38:15) When to make the decision is as important as making the decision

(42:05) Waiting to close the door

(44:18) Descartes, taking things for granted

(47:55) Obsessed with reading

(49:37) Giving up philosophy, footnotes exercise

(53:01) A five year plan

(57:03) Are numbers the closest thing we have to truth?

(59:00) Selling out and the conception of commodification

(1:01:15) Why many people buy art

(1:04:03) Pageau, icon carving

(1:04:41) Law school, working as a Barrister

(1:07:05) Wasted time, learning how to work

(1:13:45) The traits of a great litigator

(1:16:02) Acknowledge when people are good at something

(1:23:48) Being a crisis manager

(1:26:23) When the innocent think they’re not

(1:28:42) Atonement and notion of guilt

(1:32:08) Development into the art world

(1:36:21) What is a piece of art?

(1:39:25) The consumer bears the art they buy as a marker of taste

(1:41:24) Don’t believe you have a good eye, and value originality

(1:43:24) Parsing the original from the merely shocking

(1:46:02) There is a collective objectivity in art

(1:48:11) What Dr. Peterson thinks about high art

(1:49:18) Different reasons to collect art

(1:50:42) Why Dr. Peterson collects soviet art

(1:52:13) Propaganda against time

(1:55:02) When you commission an artist

(2:00:07) Art and the burning bush

(2:01:52) Art is a micro-dose into the psychedelic

(2:05:44) Art is not optional, it’s the point

(2:07:56) The idea that beauty if expensive is false

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