Deconstructing Conspiracies, among other things. (Pandas Playing Cello--8)

Julia and Carmen start off talking about conspiracies, but then wander onto many other topics, including cults, the Bene Gesserit from the novel Dune, the Amish, the cult of the CIA (?), the Mormons, and leadership.

We unlock a new level by including our first guest in the conversation, Jean Walbridge, Julia's mom. () You can catch Julia's conversation with her mom on Tread Talks here.

And let's give Julia's dad equal time. He's also a guest on Tread Talks.

Here's a link to the work of psychologist Marian Tolpin on the forward and leading edge concept in psychology.

On Heinz Kohut, another psychologist mentioned by Jean Walbridge.

And behind a paywall, sadly, an examination of beliefs in agency and conspiracy.

As always, if you want to learn more about Julia and Carmen check their linked in profiles.

And, although we don't sh--dance in this episode, we continue to add music to our playlists. (Actually, it's mostly Julia.)