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5:01Now PlayingMaria Caulfield tells Tom Swarbrick that there are some really easy ways to improve procurement within the NHS. But hold on a minute, says Tom, you've been in charge for 14 years haven't you?
Ah, explains Tory health minister Maria Caulfield, actually five years were in coalition with the Lib Dems and there were a few years where the DUP propped up Theresa May's majority.
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