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Nobody sacked over 'catastrophic' £7 billion Afghan blunder

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Andrew Marr and Lewis Goodall try to get to the bottom of a catastrophic blunder that likely cost the taxpayer billions of pounds.

Defence Secretary John Healey refuses to say whether anyone has lost their job over the Ministry of Defence data breach.

Speaking to Lewis Goodall, Mr Healey said that the defence official responsible for the Afghan data breach is “no longer doing the same job on the Afghan brief” when asked if they are still employed by the British government.

"In the end, this is bigger than the actions of a single individual. For me as Defence Secretary now in this government, my biggest concern and my first focus coming into government was to try and get a grip of something that was entirely unprecedented."

Further asked if he believes anybody should be fired over the data breach, Mr Healey said: "My first priority was not trying to conduct some sort of witch hunt on the defence official that released the spreadsheet that caused this profound data loss…

"My argument to you is that accountability can start today, accountability in due course, as the facts of this are properly scrutinised and examined that will come."

Mr Healey also said “you can never say never” when asked if he could rule out the Ministry of Defence using superinjunctions in the future.

"For me, it would have to be an extremely high bar, but to be quite honest, I'm not sure how fruitful it is to be talking about those sort of hypotheticals.

"I'm telling you how much this matters. I've worked so hard over the last year in order to get this scheme closed, the injunction lifted, people having the proper knowledge of this data loss, and so that the accountability that you want to see, I want to see that, Parliament deserves it and the public have a right to know and it starts today…"

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