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11:59Now PlayingBrian Kabateck and Shant Karnikian dismantle the Trump administration's inflammatory rhetoric about Somali immigrants in Minnesota. Brian presents the actual statistics: Minnesota's total population is nearly 6 million, with 80,000-108,000 people of Somali descent—only 1.5-2% of the state's population. Of those, 95% are U.S. citizens: most are U.S.-born children, and 87% of the remainder are naturalized citizens. Only 5,000-5,800 are non-citizens, including people here legally on visas, refugees, and asylum seekers. The best estimate for actually undocumented Somalis is 400-1,000—fewer than the number of federal agents currently deployed in Minneapolis. Shant emphasizes this is a refugee success story: families fled Somalia's civil war in the 1990s, followed legal immigration processes (which can take 20+ years with extensive FBI and Homeland Security vetting), and raised American children. Brian acknowledges some fraud exists—roughly 70-100 indictments total—but this doesn't justify vilifying the entire community. The hosts explain Trump and Stephen Miller use "Somalia" as shorthand for "Muslim, Black, foreign, criminal." Minnesota's estimated 100,000 total undocumented population (all nationalities) represents only 1.5-2% of the state, with 60% being Latino. These undocumented immigrants contribute over $1 billion annually in state taxes while receiving no refunds. Trump's highly publicized raids have arrested only "a few dozen" Somalis—nowhere near the thousands claimed.
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