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With Trump flirting with having the U.S. aid Israel in its bombings on Iran (which he probably can’t even locate on a map) and flip-flopping over whether to destroy the agriculture and hospitality industries as part of his deportation agenda, MAGA World is split right now.
“There's so much ego right now in the Republican Party,” says Ryan Wiggins, Chief of Staff for The Lincoln Project. “I mean, the fact that Marjorie Taylor Greene got into a fight about who was more MAGA — what in the hell is going on?”
And Trump is clearly spiraling after his military birthday party was badly overshadowed by thousands of “No Kings” protests from coast to coast this weekend, estimated to have drawn anywhere from 4 to 13 million.
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Ryan, host Sam Osterhout, and Jeff Timmer, The Lincoln Project’s Chief Operations Officer, all attended demonstrations on Saturday, which made for a more upbeat Strategy Session than usual. Jeff was at the event at Michigan’s Capitol in Lansing — but that was far from the only one in the state.
“There was like 40 some events around the state and it was estimated to be more than 25,000 people across these events, at least,” he says. “I mean, that's a very conservative number. And that's more than you had at the parade.”
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