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30:20Now PlayingLast week, Brian Kilmeade, one of the hosts of Fox & Friends — which is supposed to be the lighter morning show on the right-wing network — casually threw out the idea of killing homeless people via “involuntary lethal injection or something.” He then put a fine point on it: “Just kill ‘em.”
Now Kilmeade did apologize after a firestorm of criticism, but it wasn’t that long ago that you’d be fired for making comments endorsing unspeakable violence. And last week was a violent week in America. Kilmeade’s comments came hours before Charlie Kirk was assassinated while speaking at a Utah college. On that day, there was also yet another school shooting, this time in the Denver area, as Executive Editor Susan J. Demas and Executive Producer Sam Osterhout discuss.
Sam recalls how his father, who served in Vietnam, brought home the scars of war, but rarely talked about it. And now millions of American kids are trained in lockdown drills because of the risk of school shootings. This year alone, there have been 47 such shootings.
"We are putting our children through that. And their children. And their children. They were not enlisted. They were not drafted. They were never expected to make a sacrifice this heavy. And the sacrifice they're making is in service to guns,” Sam says.
Two years ago, there was a mass shooting at Michigan State University that Susan’s daughter missed by only a few minutes. But the sad part is that it isn’t an unusual story.
"It's almost inevitable that you are going to know someone who has survived a mass shooting at this point, tragically,” Susan notes.
Susan and Sam also talk about a couple other big stories in the news: Rep. Mike McCaul (R-Texas) criticizing Trump for excusing Russia sending drones into Poland last week — but only after announcing his retirement — and farmers suffering under Trump’s economy, but refusing to abandon their support for the president.
A couple weeks ago, Susan went down rabbit hole of local rural newscasts reporting on the crisis in agriculture.
"I kept waiting for the punchline. Why is this happening? ‘Why’ is the biggest question we have to answer as journalists,” she said. “And we know why this is happening. It's because of Trump's tariff policies. But they would not say Trump."
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