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All Who Refuse To Kneel | Unholy Ground with Andra Watkins & Sam Osterhout
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35:32Now PlayingOn this episode of Unholy Ground, Sam Osterhout talks with Andra Watkins about the Trump administration’s new counterterrorism strategy — and why she believes the real danger is not just that the document is sloppy, amateurish, or unserious.
Watkins argues that the document is better understood as a white Christian nationalist roadmap: one that reframes dissent, anti-Christian nationalism, and nonconformity as potential domestic terrorism. From Sebastian Gorka to Project Esther to NSPM-7, Watkins explains how the language of “freedom,” “liberty,” and “terrorism” is being redefined — and why Americans need to understand the translation before it is too late.
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