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43:32Now PlayingJoe Trippi found another Joe to co-host while Klein is out for the week. Joe Costello has spent over four decades at the crossroads of politics, communications, economics, and energy. He served as Communications Director for Jerry Brown's 1992 presidential campaign and advised Howard Dean's groundbreaking 2004 campaign that brought digital tools to American politics. He is the author of The Politics of Ape and Machine: Power as Organization, exploring how political and economic systems can be reformed through individual will and collective action.
He joins to talk through what happened in Texas, the midterms, data centers, and the Pope.
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