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31:29Now PlayingSpecial guest Ira Shapiro joins Joe and Alex for a podcast timed perfectly for America's 250th. Joe and Ira chart the path forward, not just for Democrats but for America. Trump has betrayed not just America but his own voters how can Democrats turn that into a winning message? And how do we get past "burn it all down" and towards "reform and revitalization"? What can citizens do besides just go vote every two or four years to fix this? if you're looking for a way for America to last another 250 years as a true democracy, this is one episode you'll want to check out. Check out Ira and the Common Sense Coalition's "BetrayedAmerica didn't vote for this" here
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