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23:32Now Playing“It was really clear that societies that had more equality and more access to housing and health care and education had lower levels of violence… I was seeing every single day in jail cell after jail cell with people sleeping on top of each other and feces and blood and mucus and mold and urine and being beaten and being deprived of medical care, other people making huge amounts of money off of all of that.”
Civil rights lawyer Alec Karakatsanis speaks with Zeteo’s political correspondent, Prem Thakker on the relationship between mainstream media and mass incarceration — diving into how the news inflates crime more than necessary. He also discusses what copaganda is and how inequality in society leads to police violence.
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